8th grade mile state record?

  • Nick Higgins
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    runhappy978
    I recently found out that my old school has an 8th grader who just ran 4:36 in the 1600m this year. That made me wonder what is the fastest time ever run by an 8th grader in PA. I've seen several 4:50s and a few 4:40s.
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    JimDillner
    Vince McNally ran 4:31 for Conestoga Valley Middle School in 2004. That's off of Coach Bagley's photo copied record sheets.
  • Coach
    Fscal
    There's an 8th grade girls at Arcola Middle School (Methacton SD) who ran 5:09 for 1600 the other day. I think her name is Cara Stenke (not sure of spelling). She has run around the 5:10 range a couple of times, I believe.

    Don't think too many boys even beat her when they combine the sexes in MS meets.

    Darn impressive.
  • Frederick Carlson
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    sverige55 Edited
    Hey Nick
    That 8th grade Kiski runner (Brent Kennedy) just ran 4:37 to win the WAADA middle school meet this past weekend. His older brother Ryan 11th grade made D7 finals in the 1600 we'll see what he does Thursday.

    When my son Rick Carlson (1:55/4:27/9:47) was entered into age group track meets around 4th-5th grade already Ben Hahn (Smethport 9:09 3200 HS--now at Edinboro) and Lucas Zarzeczny (Northgate/Avonworth AA state champ 06 XC and 4:16/9:17-now at Penn State) were killing everyone in the distances even at that early age. They both made the PA state track meet in 9th grade so I'd love to hear what those two ran as 8th graders in the 1600 if anyone knows.

    As our Conestoga Valley poster Jim Dillner pointed out, Vince McNally was a 4:31 in 8th grade--sprang upon the state XC scene with a 10th place AAA as a freshman in a terrific field, and ran a state champ 4x8 (around 1:55 split) and 4:21 open 1600 in 9th grade outdoor track, whew!
  • Nick Higgins
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    runhappy978
    That 4:23 is pretty sick for the freshman mile. Alan Webb I think ran 4:24 as a freshman. However, it's hard to ever measure up to Craig Miller's 4:14 as a 9th grader.
  • Frederick Carlson
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    sverige55 Edited
    That freshman year improvement by Craig Miller to 4:14 was amazing cause he went from high 4:30s to 4:14 over a 3-week period or so, according to old archives I read on this site that reconstructed his freshman campaign in high school.

    Should always be a source for encouragement for all HS tracksters that such late season improvements are possible as people taper. A few seasons back Ryan Fink of Strath Haven as a senior went from 4:26 to 4:13 in his last 3 meets.

    Looking at super 8th and 9th graders in this post, I came across an amazing 9th grader from the recently completed 2010 West Virginia track season, a Jacob Burcham from Cabell Midland High near Huntington. At their WV state AAA meet last weekend, 9th grader Jacob tripled 1:57.01 (3rd in the 800), 4:17.06 (2nd in the 1600), and 9:15.94 (2nd in the 3200). A lot of years these times would have swept first places, especially the 3200 time. His seasonal marks include 1:56.95, 4:14.51, and 9:20.34 tripled in a one-day invite May 1 (Gazette relays). Whew! Watch for this guy! Another Lucas Verzbiskas! He won his XC Region 4-AAA WV regional in cross last fall and finished I think 6th or 7th at their WV state meet in XC 38 sec off first place Brendan Doughty (1:55.64, 4:14.30, 9:23.2 this spring) for the hilly 5K. Not a bad start for 9th grade!

    edit: I just found Burcham has 8th grade times listed as 2:05/4:38/10:31, only one time each on the milesplit database, as you know middle school meets are mostly hand timed so there may better performances out there if anyone knows. As of early May THIS YEAR his 1600/3200 times were fastest in the country for freshmen (4:14 has improved from an early season indoor 4:35, and his 9:15 has improved from an early season outdoor 9:52).

    edit 2: On the runwv.com site I found Jacob had a 10:14.40 3200 on 4/21/09 and a 4:33.22 1600 on 4/27/09. At his county middle school champs he ran along with his Barboursville teammates in more typical 8th grade times in the 2:15/5:15/11:12 range!
  • Joseph McGinnis
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    jmcginnis57
    Three weeks ago, my wife and I brought my son Sean to Philadelphia CYO Track Championship in Franklin Field. I was shocked when I checked the seeded times of Cadet Boys 1600 meters run out on the program book. Sam Webb who is 7th grader finished 4 minutes and 31 seconds. I am not surprised that Sam Webb will able to finish 4 minutes and 20 seconds when he will be in 8th grade class. He broke many track records. I will keep my eye on him when he will play for Pennsbury High School with Sargent sisters. One of Sargent sisters finished second in 3200 meters run when she competed in PIAA State Championship. She is a sophomore for Pennsbury. Her other young sister finished 5 minutes and 3 seconds in 1600 meters even though she is in 6th grade class.

    Joe McGinnis
    Sean's dad

    Sean finished 2 minutes and 19 seconds in 800 meters run. He won Minors Boy track event. He continues running for Tri County Express Track Club.