NO US women's high jumpers or triple jumpers at Worlds?
08/12/2015 11:43:48 AM
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That's right, among the top finishers at Nationals, no one has jumped 6-4.25 or 46-7.25, the qualifying standards for Beijing. Let's keep patting USATF and NIKE on the back for all they've done for T&F in the USA!!
That's right, among the top finishers at Nationals, no one has jumped 6-4.25 or 46-7.25, the qualifying standards for Beijing.

Let's keep patting USATF and NIKE on the back for all they've done for T&F in the USA!!
08/12/2015 12:03:18 PM
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40 year-old Amy Acuff was 3rd at Nationals (6-2). The winner, Chaunte Lowe (6-3.25), is 31. The only American woman who has met the WC standard in the HJ is 17 year-old Vashti Cunningham, Randall's daughter, who jumped 6-5 this Summer. She opted to go the Junior/Youth route.
40 year-old Amy Acuff was 3rd at Nationals (6-2). The winner, Chaunte Lowe (6-3.25), is 31.

The only American woman who has met the WC standard in the HJ is 17 year-old Vashti Cunningham, Randall's daughter, who jumped 6-5 this Summer. She opted to go the Junior/Youth route.
08/13/2015 11:21:26 AM
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@rnicklas The IAAF has now invited 2 US Woman Lowe HJ and Epps TJ to compete!
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The IAAF has now invited 2 US Woman Lowe HJ and Epps TJ to compete!
08/13/2015 12:45:48 PM
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@mschwartzusatf That's great! Maybe NIKE should spend some of their "sweat shop" millions to help develop those events in the USA!
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That's great! Maybe NIKE should spend some of their "sweat shop" millions to help develop those events in the USA!
08/13/2015 7:17:07 PM
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@rnicklas The USATF Men's and Woman's Development Committees have had programs spending $ etc. to improve our weak events ie. 800m which has born fruit. Women's HJ is on a downward cycle, but has not been a problem historically. Lowe had retired to have a baby and has come back. Acuff the old vet. Women's TJ has been historically a weak event for us as it is a relatively new event at the international level etc. Many states HS do not Jav, TJ, SC and Hammer. Jav which in recent history has been somewhat of a weak event. There are programs through USATF for TJ etc and other groups such as NSF (Jav) for development. Some of the states around us do not Jav and TJ ie WV and Ohio. Woman's HJ has lost a lot of talent to Volley Ball. Do not be surprised if the woman's HJ becomes a priority next year particularly since the Women's T/F Committee Chr. is Sue Humphrey who has been our very successfull Elite Woman's HJ Coach for many years who will surely want to address this. it takes time to develop top notch athletes through the pipeline in these and other events and results do not happen over night. By the way most, of the funding comes from the USOC based on Podium/medal performances in Track and Field,USATF Some of it from Nike,and some raised through the USATF Foundation and it's Board Members for specific programs and individual Athletes who are granted $ awards to help them live and train etc. Many in these weak events ,whose Exec. Director lives in Pgh. and has Fund Raised for PSU,USOC etc. sports science event/discipline specific and an athlete centered approach is emphasized
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The USATF Men's and Woman's Development Committees have had programs spending $ etc. to improve our weak events ie. 800m which has born fruit. Women's HJ is on a downward cycle, but has not been a problem historically. Lowe had retired to have a baby and has come back. Acuff the old vet. Women's TJ has been historically a weak event for us as it is a relatively new event at the international level etc. Many states HS do not Jav, TJ, SC and Hammer. Jav which in recent history has been somewhat of a weak event. There are programs through USATF for TJ etc and other groups such as NSF (Jav) for development. Some of the states around us do not Jav and TJ ie WV and Ohio.

Woman's HJ has lost a lot of talent to Volley Ball.
Do not be surprised if the woman's HJ becomes a priority next year particularly since the Women's T/F Committee Chr. is Sue Humphrey who has been our very successfull Elite Woman's HJ Coach for many years who will surely want to address this. it takes time to develop top notch athletes through the pipeline in these and other events and results do not happen over night.

By the way most, of the funding comes from the USOC based on Podium/medal performances in Track and Field,USATF Some of it from Nike,and some raised through the USATF Foundation and it's Board Members for specific programs and individual Athletes who are granted $ awards to help them live and train etc. Many in these weak events ,whose Exec. Director lives in Pgh. and has Fund Raised for PSU,USOC etc.

sports science event/discipline specific and an athlete centered approach is emphasized
08/14/2015 8:49:32 AM
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@mschwartzusatf How about a TJ camp for women with Dick Booth financed by the USOC (read Nike) inviting the 10-15 best young female triple jumpers in the US? Does Nike sell enough TJ/LJ specialty shoes to make this idea profitable?
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How about a TJ camp for women with Dick Booth financed by the USOC (read Nike) inviting the 10-15 best young female triple jumpers in the US?

Does Nike sell enough TJ/LJ specialty shoes to make this idea profitable?
08/23/2015 9:09:40 PM
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Maybe instead of bashing USATF, NIKE, and the USOC we should look in the mirror for answers. Why cant we as high school coaches attract more talent to these events? Why do we have such a problem recruiting athletes from Volley Ball and other big dollar year round sports? Olympians and world caliber athletes should be identified at the grass roots and high school level...Given a platform to compete and moved along to the next level.
Maybe instead of bashing USATF, NIKE, and the USOC we should look in the mirror for answers. Why cant we as high school coaches attract more talent to these events? Why do we have such a problem recruiting athletes from Volley Ball and other big dollar year round sports? Olympians and world caliber athletes should be identified at the grass roots and high school level...Given a platform to compete and moved along to the next level.
08/24/2015 11:17:41 AM
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@speed_kills If Dick Booth coached Keturah Orji, she'd jump 49+ feet. The female athletes are there, the coaching is not. Our lone TJ competitor at Worlds finished 24th with a mark of 43-4. There have been 8 high school jumpers beyond that mark! Consider this: The American HS boys record is 5' 2" below the WR; the HS girls record is 5' 10.5" below the WR. The American men's record however is 8" below the WR while the American women's record is 3' 5.25" below the WR. The HS level is not the problem!!
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If Dick Booth coached Keturah Orji, she'd jump 49+ feet.

The female athletes are there, the coaching is not.

Our lone TJ competitor at Worlds finished 24th with a mark of 43-4. There have been 8 high school jumpers beyond that mark!

Consider this:
The American HS boys record is 5' 2" below the WR; the HS girls record is
5' 10.5" below the WR. The American men's record however is 8" below the WR while the American women's record is 3' 5.25" below the WR.

The HS level is not the problem!!
08/24/2015 1:36:32 PM
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@rnicklas All the top Women TJ Collegians in the US have been foreigners ie. Tricia Kaye Smith Pitt/Jamaica trained post collegiately in London, 46' American Record just won't cut it,Tricia was at one time the American Collegiate Record holder,post collegiate 49-50' 4th in Oly placed in Worlds, and many other foreign Women who competed collegiately here. As I mentioned earlier the US was late in starting to contest this event for girls/Women. The USOC and Nike are not one in the same
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All the top Women TJ Collegians in the US have been foreigners ie. Tricia Kaye Smith Pitt/Jamaica trained post collegiately in London, 46' American Record just won't cut it,Tricia was at one time the American Collegiate Record holder,post collegiate 49-50' 4th in Oly placed in Worlds, and many other foreign Women who competed collegiately here. As I mentioned earlier the US was late in starting to contest this event for girls/Women. The USOC and Nike are not one in the same
08/24/2015 1:38:48 PM
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@speed_kills Agreed and better TJ Coaching at all levels here. Many of the great TJ coaches here are foreigners. USATF Developement/High Performance does track athletes from the grass roots level on.
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Agreed and better TJ Coaching at all levels here. Many of the great TJ coaches here are foreigners. USATF Developement/High Performance does track athletes from the grass roots level on.
08/24/2015 3:55:41 PM
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@mschwartzusatf November 24, 2014: COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – The United States Olympic Committee and NIKE, Inc. today announced the extension of NIKE’s sponsorship of the USOC through 2020. Nike is one of the USOC's top-tier sponsors. No dollar figures were given for the latest extension, though these contracts traditionally have been worth between $12 million and $15 million over four years. NIKE "owns" USATF and is a major stake-holder in USOC. If the women's TJ was as high profile as the men's 100m, the US would have multiple 48 footers. As it is, the top 5 finishers in the women's TJ at Beijing represent 5 nations whose combined population is approximately 80 million. The US at 320 million had 1 competitor who did not meet the qualifying standard and finished 24th. A poor commentary on the state of T&F in this, the world's greatest nation.
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November 24, 2014:

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. -- The United States Olympic Committee and NIKE, Inc. today announced the extension of NIKE's sponsorship of the USOC through 2020.

Nike is one of the USOC's top-tier sponsors. No dollar figures were given for the latest extension, though these contracts traditionally have been worth between $12 million and $15 million over four years.

NIKE "owns" USATF and is a major stake-holder in USOC. If the women's TJ was as high profile as the men's 100m, the US would have multiple 48 footers.

As it is, the top 5 finishers in the women's TJ at Beijing represent 5 nations whose combined population is approximately 80 million. The US at 320 million had 1 competitor who did not meet the qualifying standard and finished 24th. A poor commentary on the state of T&F in this, the world's greatest nation.
08/27/2015 3:23:40 PM
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Our only female high jumper had no measurement in the qualifying round; the opening height was 5-10.75. Not sure what height she came in at. No US high jumper in the top 28? Really?
Our only female high jumper had no measurement in the qualifying round; the opening height was 5-10.75. Not sure what height she came in at.

No US high jumper in the top 28? Really?

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