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03/04/2019 1:20:06 PM
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Hays, How much truth is there to what I saw in the area meeting discussion information booklet that has the following for track for current year. class 1 123 class 2 216 class 3 429 class 4 1015 class 5 1834. Any thoughts or ideas please share.
Hays,
How much truth is there to what I saw in the area meeting discussion information booklet that has the following for track for current year.
class 1 123
class 2 216
class 3 429
class 4 1015
class 5 1834.

Any thoughts or ideas please share.
03/04/2019 1:25:01 PM
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I have top of Class 1 at 130 Class 2 at 233 Class 3 at 451 Class 4 at 1048.
I have top of Class 1 at 130
Class 2 at 233
Class 3 at 451
Class 4 at 1048.
03/04/2019 1:29:18 PM
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Wow that was fast. The book also had cross country and the numbers were right on.
Wow that was fast. The book also had cross country and the numbers were right on.
03/04/2019 2:09:12 PM
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The 1834 is the enrollment of the largest school with a girls program. Go down the schools with girls teams and the 64th largest has an en enrollment of 1055. If 1016 was used, that would put 67 schools in Class 5 girls track. There are not 148 schools with girls track that have enrollments of 123 and below that you saw in the handouts. I do know that Russellville is hosting a class 1 district and their enrollment is above that 123 max.
The 1834 is the enrollment of the largest school with a girls program. Go down the schools with girls teams and the 64th largest has an en enrollment of 1055. If 1016 was used, that would put 67 schools in Class 5 girls track.
There are not 148 schools with girls track that have enrollments of 123 and below that you saw in the handouts.
I do know that Russellville is hosting a class 1 district and their enrollment is above that 123 max.
03/04/2019 2:10:59 PM
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I was just confused. Thanks for setting the record straight.
I was just confused. Thanks for setting the record straight.
03/04/2019 2:11:55 PM
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I was just confused. Thanks for setting the record straight.
I was just confused. Thanks for setting the record straight.
03/06/2019 6:49:25 PM
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Russellville hosted a Class 1 and 2 District at the same time last year, but I think this could be an interesting time depending on both of your numbers. Some big players in Class 2 sit right on that 220 line...
Russellville hosted a Class 1 and 2 District at the same time last year, but I think this could be an interesting time depending on both of your numbers. Some big players in Class 2 sit right on that 220 line...
03/06/2019 8:11:07 PM
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Russellville is only hosting a Class 1 district this year. Lathrop is also hosting a Class 2 sectional and I have them at the top of Class 2.
Russellville is only hosting a Class 1 district this year. Lathrop is also hosting a Class 2 sectional and I have them at the top of Class 2.
03/06/2019 8:12:09 PM
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I predict a major changes in some places and no change in others. We shall see in a day and half.
I predict a major changes in some places and no change in others. We shall see in a day and half.
03/07/2019 9:04:21 AM
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What is going to be the BIGGEST surprise com tomorrow in the classifications?
What is going to be the BIGGEST surprise com tomorrow in the classifications?
03/07/2019 9:30:34 AM
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I have 44 schools switching classes from last year out of around 500. Four of last years state champ teams are moving up a class. Biggest surprise will be a remixing of the composition of some districts and therefore sectionals. C4 Sect 1 will be radically different.
I have 44 schools switching classes from last year out of around 500. Four of last years state champ teams are moving up a class.
Biggest surprise will be a remixing of the composition of some districts and therefore sectionals. C4 Sect 1 will be radically different.
03/07/2019 2:23:31 PM
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Also, it looks like section 3 is going to be CRAZY tough on the sprint side for class 4. We are looking at potentially 12 of the top 16 returning females in the 100 being in the same district. Meaning potential state qualifiers not even making the district finals!
Also, it looks like section 3 is going to be CRAZY tough on the sprint side for class 4. We are looking at potentially 12 of the top 16 returning females in the 100 being in the same district. Meaning potential state qualifiers not even making the district finals!
03/08/2019 6:57:01 AM
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Anybody know what time they are going to release today? That way I can stop hitting refresh on mshsaa. Thanks and good luck everyone as we head into competitions in a little over a week.
Anybody know what time they are going to release today? That way I can stop hitting refresh on mshsaa. Thanks and good luck everyone as we head into competitions in a little over a week.
03/08/2019 8:09:42 AM
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They are posted
They are posted
03/08/2019 8:36:38 AM
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@Big_Al_2112 This is absolutely insane. We are literally not with a school in our same conference and people in the same region that way have always been paired with but have to pair with people for Sectionals on the complete other side of the state (St. Louis side vs. KC side). It's not about difficulty to me. Hell the Sectional we have been in has always been tough not a problem. Geographically this is the worst thing I have ever seen. We've had to go close to 2 hours on a bus for a Dist or Sect the last few years. Now potentially with this we could have a 3-4 hour trip or cost us for an overnight. Maybe some people are fine with how theirs landed but for ours this is crazy IMO.
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This is absolutely insane. We are literally not with a school in our same conference and people in the same region that way have always been paired with but have to pair with people for Sectionals on the complete other side of the state (St. Louis side vs. KC side).

It's not about difficulty to me. Hell the Sectional we have been in has always been tough not a problem. Geographically this is the worst thing I have ever seen.

We've had to go close to 2 hours on a bus for a Dist or Sect the last few years. Now potentially with this we could have a 3-4 hour trip or cost us for an overnight.

Maybe some people are fine with how theirs landed but for ours this is crazy IMO.
03/08/2019 8:53:01 AM
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WOW, Just Wow MSHSAA. That's all I got.
WOW, Just Wow MSHSAA.

That's all I got.
03/08/2019 9:29:55 AM
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Enrollment breaks were determined by the girls schools. There are only 95 schools in Class4 because of a tie at what would be the 96th spot so both Odessa and both were placed in Class 3. Class 3 does still have 96 schools which is why I was off by 1 in Class 2 and Class 1.
Enrollment breaks were determined by the girls schools. There are only 95 schools in Class4 because of a tie at what would be the 96th spot so both Odessa and both were placed in Class 3. Class 3 does still have 96 schools which is why I was off by 1 in Class 2 and Class 1.
03/08/2019 9:42:21 AM
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This is the worst thing I've ever seen. What in the world were they thinking.
This is the worst thing I've ever seen. What in the world were they thinking.
03/08/2019 10:16:56 AM
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[quote=R-Taylor]This is the worst thing I've ever seen. What in the world were they thinking.[/quote] Is that a rhetorical question? I think many of us have the answer but not many people want to hear it.
R-Taylor wrote:
his is the worst thing I've ever seen. What in the world were they thinking.


Is that a rhetorical question? I think many of us have the answer but not many people want to hear it.
03/08/2019 10:30:08 AM
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I was interested to look at the districts this morning but expected it to be the same as usual for us in class 5. Once we made the jump to 5 classes I figured we wouldn't see much change. Boy was I wrong! I pulled it up and the thoguht that went through my head was HOLY CRAP!!!! At first, I thought it must be a typo that class 5, district 2 was southwest Missouri. Our class 5, district 1 is a large area, as it encompasses the southern part of St. Louis, Southeast Missouri, and the I-44 corridor through central Missouri-that is a quarter of the state. Then we have a class 5, sectional 1 matching up the entire southern half of the state. There is going to be some serious travel for some people and some schools may have to travel farther for the sectional meet, depending on where it is, than for state. I'm really not sure of the logic behind this.
I was interested to look at the districts this morning but expected it to be the same as usual for us in class 5. Once we made the jump to 5 classes I figured we wouldn't see much change. Boy was I wrong! I pulled it up and the thoguht that went through my head was HOLY CRAP!!!! At first, I thought it must be a typo that class 5, district 2 was southwest Missouri. Our class 5, district 1 is a large area, as it encompasses the southern part of St. Louis, Southeast Missouri, and the I-44 corridor through central Missouri-that is a quarter of the state. Then we have a class 5, sectional 1 matching up the entire southern half of the state. There is going to be some serious travel for some people and some schools may have to travel farther for the sectional meet, depending on where it is, than for state. I'm really not sure of the logic behind this.

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